Doom 3 is totally B-Grade (2025)

Games like this should not be made.
Seriously with the engine used for this they could have made a much more entertaining game. Demons from hell on Mars is old fashioned and worked, lets say in the late eighties, early nineties as a b-grade type of science fiction sub genre but now this type of thing is just rubbish.

Imagine the types of things they could have done with this engine and the setting on mars in the future. Visions of a James Cameron/ Ridley Scott type sci-fi enter my mind...

The setting is quite good with a very futuristic feel and good interaction with some of the contraptions on mars but the devil & hell tie-ins are what ruined this game for me I found it cheesy and completely over the top that demons from hell were on mars. If this had been a game with a subtle depiction of a slightly believable Alien race instead of demons I would have enjoyed the game much more.

I constantly felt as though the monsters would attack just as I was reloading or cycling through available weapons. You simply run out of ammo and must reload way too often and it takes too long to do so. I think that FPS designers must take notice of the most popular FPS games and really try to keep the core gameplay similar i.e.: reloading, changing weapons the same. This should be made as easy and as fast as possible, excluding Counterstrike’s grenade throwing system, projectiles should go exactly where you point the mouse regardless of the direction you are moving at the time of release.

Most of the time your weapons feel completely inferior & ineffective.

Overall its way too over the top for my tastes as with most video games in general. I hope that one day the game industry will take itself seriously and make a game that values believable situations and settings without the often ridiculous and elaborate ones that have plagued them since the beginning.

quietfool said:

How old are you? Did you ever play doom1/2? I agree doom3 wasn't as entertaining as I hoped it would be but without demons it just wouldn't be doom.

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I am 26.

All im saying is that I think Doom is an old idea that doesent cut it anymore.
With such a nice futuristic haman colony on mars its a shame they had to go a ruin it by being faithful to the original

Iceflow said:

With such a nice futuristic haman colony on mars its a shame they had to go a ruin it by being faithful to the original

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It's a sequel to DooM, wait for someone to get the engine and make something else. And games like Painkiller and Serious Sam do cut it. We need more of their kind, getting tired of semi realistic shooters. I'm not saying stop making them, just do some from all kinds and we'll be happy

**** that.

Bring on more WW2 shooters!!!!!

Iceflow said:

I am 26.

All im saying is that I think Doom is an old idea that doesent cut it anymore.
With such a nice futuristic haman colony on mars its a shame they had to go a ruin it by being faithful to the original

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I don't think they "ruined" it at all, I am very pleased with the sequel. I know that good sales figures don't always mean a game is great or even good, but it certainly indicates that a large proportion of players wanted to play it. One could conclude that it "cuts" it, so to speak.

Far Cry is the cheesiest game on the planet but I love it! It's about how they use it. I didn't find Doom 3 cheesy at all and really enjoyed the demonic theme.

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1759,1784975,00.asp

Meh, say something we haven't heard 100 times before. Some people love Doom 3, some people love to hate it. People can argued up and down both ways for eternity, so don't waste your time.

For what it's worth, I liked the game. My only major gripe is the weapons, which did feel way too weak in terms of sound and feedback.

Stevedroid said:

Meh, say something we haven't heard 100 times before. Some people love Doom 3, some people love to hate it. People can argued up and down both ways for eternity, so don't waste your time.

For what it's worth, I liked the game. My only major gripe is the weapons, which did feel way too weak in terms of sound and feedback.

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my argument is not just black & white. Its about gaming in general.
please link us to one of the 100 comments youve heard that talks about the same issues im raising?

rayzian said:

If only they made Doom 3 like SS2. Imagine... SS2 with D3 graphics.. one can only dream

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Exactly.

SS2 & HL2 are about the only 2 serious Sci-fi's on PC

I prefer System Shocks futuristic environments over Half life 2's, obviously HL2 has better graphics engine but the gameworld is almost retro future and I hate that..

Its a shame that there arent more of those kinds of games available. I would have thought that video games were the perfect medium for science fiction.

yoz said:

Hopefully Monolith will license this engine

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Why would they.
They have their own engines, and half of their firm is based on engine design, as can be seen in Fear

yoz said:

It's a sequel to DooM, wait for someone to get the engine and make something else. And games like Painkiller and Serious Sam do cut it. We need more of their kind, getting tired of semi realistic shooters. I'm not saying stop making them, just do some from all kinds and we'll be happy

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There are very few things that this and the other dooms have in common.
Primarily the name, the weapons, and the monsters.

The gameplay and level design are by no means like any of the old dooms.
When it ceases to play like an old doom game, then it ceases to be doom.
As Shakespeare once said, what is in a name, a rose by any other name would smell just as sweet.
Likewise, this game by any other name would still not be Doom, despite it being called that, because its not as sweet as the old ones.

I wonder how long we have to wait before we start seeing decent scripts and plots in video games?

Halo 2's sales record is certainly encouraging.